I also want to thank the good doctor for keeping us informed. Ooooooh boy. A coma is NOT the same as brain death. 2015 Apr;147(4):1144-1151. doi: 10.1378/chest.14-2227. It will most likely be well into 2018 before any actual trial begins.The defendants motion for a summary judgment is scheduled for August. People sometimes assume New Jersey is cold just because most of our citizens are. There is video released by nailah that supposedly demonstrates Jahi coloring. It is just as likely that the information we get for new advanced imaging in brain death will solidify the question rather than leave doubt. As usual, the simplest explanation is the most likely. I don't think New Jersey Medicaid was aware of her status in CA at the time her application was processed. The patients with contractures are receiving signals albit bad signals but still signals. This is a corpse that is showing signs of decomposition. and yes, they are acting out in response to the neglect. The hospital protests in which supporters of the family chanted, Dont pull the plug! were long over, and relatives dabbed tears as they recalled Jahis cherubic smile, her love of manicures and her penchant for wearing hoodies and flip-flops during winter. and transmitted securely. It's a real question. There is nothing in McMath's medical records from Saint Peter's University Hospital that would cause a reputable expert in pediatric or adult brain death to question or reconsider the accepted brain death assessments of Dr. Robin Shanahan, Dr. Robert Heidersbach, and Dr. Paul Fisher. [26], On January 5, 2014, Children's Hospital released McMath to the Alameda County coroner. Doctor Bastard do you any thoughts on his condition? It feels unreal and as if a part of you died along with your loved one. There is a marker placed between her thumb and forefinger, with the tip of the marker on a piece of paper that has squiggles of different colors on it. Frequent Preservation of Neurologic Function in Brain Death and I think that would help them to accept Jahi's condition. The uncommon case of Jahi McMath - PubMed I think Nailah is going for public opinion, because the claims of the family won't be actual evidence for a court proceeding. HHS Vulnerability Disclosure, Help She is brain dead. you missed the implication. Why not just wait and find out! I have been continually horrified by this story since its beginning. This will come up again. It's time someone evaluate momma and get her the help she needs. They are vile and disgusting, and should probably be charged with fraud. I doubt the advanced testing in Jahi's case will be dispositive in resolving the legal dispute. Sometimes we see half of her face, eyes closed, or wearing Mom's Michael Kors sunglasses. @tania, A very minor point from California, where Jahi started. . In exactly the same way that the family's reluctance to permit further tests looks like they're afraid they don't want the answer.We're in unknown territory. Does that mean she could conceive? Now we presume so - but the fact is we don't know so. While her brain has decreased in size proven by MRI done by the family it is not the same as a water filled balloon. Nope. [44] Other questions that have been raised include how California law treats brain death and whether McMath's case could change existing laws and practices. I have no difficulty accepting that a diagnosis of brain stem death equates with a statement that there is no likelihood of recovery and so all further treatment is futile. Bookshelf Her body can go on like this for years, as long as her pressure sores are not allowed to get infected. 2018 Aug;29(1):20-22. doi: 10.1007/s12028-018-0561-5. If that exam verifies that she meets brain death criteria it's anyone's guess what might happen afterward. I don't see that finding out is ethically borderline any more than any number of investigative inquiries are. If you think she is still alive mom, YOU pay for her medical care.' It will be interesting to see if the court, after reviewing this latest expert testimony outlined here, will grant that motion. and yes, there are siblings. I'm sure Jahi's lips were never necrotic. When Jahi McMath was declared brain-dead by the hospital, her family disagreed. [39] After receiving custody of McMath from Children's Hospital, the Coroner then released her to the custody of her mother, who was warned of and assumed all risk regarding cardiac arrest during the transfer. Hastings Cent Rep. 2018 Nov;48 Suppl 4:S74-S76. I followed the case closely. I agree that advanced testing will probably not settle anything legally or emotionally in the case of Jahi's mother. What Does It Mean to Die? | The New Yorker Organ music thrummed. Yes they receive taxpayer money to take care of the corpse. The lawyer for the family of Jahi McMath said this week the 13-year-old girl's body had deteriorated badly since she was declared brain-dead at an Oakland hospital. Jahi McMath : r/offmychest - Reddit Never. Jahi does not. I'm testing it. To Jahis mother, the years in New Jersey were both a hardship and a victory. Her case gained international attention as her mother fought a legal battle to keep her on life support. Not that I'm going anywhere soon, but forget the jumper cables and let me go. She is not on life support. The award recognizes "the unconditional love they have for Jahi, and their courage as they continue the fight for their daughter against overwhelming odds." I don't know. The expert statement "there is absolutely no possibility she will recover" is consistent with what we know- but is an opinion and is challengeable because we do not have a lot of experience with testing patients who have had long term somatic survival. Stories from the trauma bay: Jahi McMath update Jahi, who would have turned 18 this year, lay in a casket painted in her favorite lavender hue. PMC They might make a good living prepping bodies for an open casket funeral. Remembering Jahi McMath, the person who died twice The lining of the intestines were sloughing, likely due to decreased blood flow. 6. I've been following this story because, as an ICU nurse, I'm always amazed at the dynamics of denial. Looks like they took a photoshop tool and just filled in the areas. Why does the state keep paying for this? I have seen people that weren't brain dead and there hands are all contracted, some in fetal position. Reems Academy on MacArthur Boulevard. How can the state of NJ still continue to pay for this child's care if she is brain dead? The coroner's office had issued an official death certificate for McMath on January 3, 2014, with the date of death listed as December 12, 2013. She joined the Chronicle in 2015 after stints at several alt weekly newspapers. Apparently a buddy of theirs went on a oxy/meth binger, and had a stroke and heart attack, they had him on life support for a week and decided to remove it and the guy is still breathing on his own, they said it would take three days for shut down, they removed it Wednesday and it was Saturday when we talked.. Motel Styx: we'll keep the respirator on for you. They have a Facebook page set up to accept donations, and I wouldn't be surprised if there is a GoFundMe and other crowdsource panhandling going on here.This family is not hopefully ignorant. McMath's mother stated she was honored to receive the award and referred to her daughter as still asleep, clarifying that she does not use the phrase "brain dead" to refer to her daughter. This test result establishes to a reasonable degree of medical certainty that J. McMath cannot respond to verbal commands because she has no cerebral mechanism to hear sound. Since then the family has remained silent regarding this phenomena and there hasn't been an update on the Facebook page since last February. Powered by. ie: elderly/disabled patients that have family members being paid to care for their loved ones. "greater love hath no man but that he lay down his life for another"I don't see how that could fail to include organ donation. Although morbid. They provided the testimony of the two brain death experts Doc linked to here as the more complete factual record the court had earlier said was missing when they denied ruling on the motion at the pleading stage.I can't see how the court can ignore that compelling testimony. and if so, can the state step in and ask them to stop funding unless proof is provided that Jahi is indeed alive? That is ethically borderline at best. You can Google it for more info or read DocBastard's report from Monday, October 6th, 2014. it's okay, you have healthcare and emergency response people here. In a pretrial conference on December 23, Judge Evelio Grillo appointed Paul Graham Fisher, the chief of Child Neurology at Stanford University School of Medicine, to provide an independent medical opinion regarding the declaration of brain death. And while I agree the mother needs psyche care, her motivations for her antics look like greed and deceit to me. She doesn't understand how the vent works, apparently, because there is not one single patient-initiated breath. In September 2016 the family announced that Jahi is initiating breaths on her own. The young man is now fully functioning, thankfully he was in a coma in a time when people didn't put money before children's lives. I have no idea what treatment she needs, and I don't think speculation will help anything. At what point does a child's life outweigh money. A worker at Acts Full Gospel Church places a photo of Jahi McMath before her funeral on Friday, July 6, 2018, in Oakland, Calif. Kaylah Lillard, second from left, cries during a funeral for her friend Jahi McMath on Friday, July 6, 2018, in Oakland, Calif. Mourners look at photos of Jahi McMath during her funeral on Friday, July 6, 2018, in Oakland, Calif. Nailah Winkfield, left, arrives at a funeral for her daughter Jahi McMath on Friday, July 6, 2018, in Oakland, Calif. At right is Wanda Johnson, whose son Oscar Grant was killed by a BART police officer in 2009. This whole thing is a money and attention grab, no more, no less. She will never recover. It is a medical impossibility that J. McMath is moving in response to verbal commands. So was she almost all the way dead is the question, can death be more or less than we originally thought of by medical standards that can be considered outdated.. During that time, she underwent menarche and other aspects of puberty and developed intermittent responsiveness to commands, documented by eyewitness attestations and multiple home videos. This is because they know of the case, not because of Facebook campaigns. Good info to know.In the McMath case the legal proceedings have given us a unique opportunity - to actually see what these scans show in someone with prolonged somatic survival. It looked like the early photos of Jahi where she look fuller in the face. Im just curious how in photos she has not lost weight, you would think after all this time, her body would have shrunk but nope, Ziggy, back in Oct of 2015 a photo of Jahi was posted by a hairdresser. McMath's family also requested to have Paul A. Byrne conduct a separate evaluation. Mom is disconnected & in need of psych care & counseling. Life support measures can only sustain life where there's actual living tissue, correct? It is not really "up north." I saw a photo of a younger relative kissing the corpse. This site needs JavaScript to work properly. Without an autopsy what kind of information can be gleaned regarding cause of death? Is that on Facebook? Dozens of mourners streamed into Acts Full Gospel Church to memorialize the Oakland teen whose throat surgery gone awry inspired the latest national debate over the meaning of death. Thanks Samantha. The brain dead person is taking up a bed and staff time that can be used to care for someone who can actually be helped. The family described the surgery as a routine tonsillectomy in media reports. It's the one where she has a white zit? I understand it a lot better now. I mean shouldn't the hospitals in this lawsuit be interested in having this done?I feel sorry for the ones left standing in the background, the other children (siblings) who've been deprived of being able to properly grieve their sister, who were deprived of a mother caring properly for them .. Not certain how much if any: money plays a role. This was the question I asked Mrs. Bastard when she was pregnant with our first child and wanted EDIT: New and improved version, now with 83 of your favourite myths.